AIRAID CAI is better then yours....

[muscleshop]

LMMFAO.

Thread on Trailvoy.... where "David" from AIRAID.. is trying to convince everyone that their CAI is superior to anything out there, yet there's does NOT need a tune.

He just keeps deflecting what I'm asking him,... telling me and others that we have no idea what we are talking about. I just asked him to compare IEATSRT8's, Jettt's and his... see how he responds...

http://forums.trailvoy.com/showthread.php?t=52547

[Fast Motorsports]

"we tuned it for you so a tune isnt required" EPIC!

[whyme]

i was going to post but u already said it all. this could get interesting.

[WICKEDOWESIX]

sweet no tuning for a CAI.. Where do I sign up!! LOL

[DoWork]

This is gonna get good!

[EDub]

Haha this is great.

[Fast Motorsports]

Damn I'm doing it wrong!

I need to start stocking these! Not only does it do my tune work for me but saves the customer money

Man this is going to turn the tuning world upside down. I wonder if we add a tornado to it if we will see even better gains?????

[Alvin]

A intake itself doesn't require much if any tuning because of the extra airflow. Its because it changes the flow profile across the MAF sensor making it read different. That is why most need a tune. Its possible airraid tailored thier intake to put the maf calibration back where it started from but I wouldn't believe it unless I saw it. The factory neck down piece really screws with the factory MAF calibration. Anytime you open that up your going to need to recalibrate.

I'll tell you guys this. Most CAI's on the market are nothing more than a sound maker or something that looks nice under the hood. There's no real magic to them, pick one that fits nice both under the hood and in your budget and you've done all you can do outside of doing something drastic. The biggest thing you can do with a intake system is be sure that you get the coolest air possible. The K&N CAI setup is horrible in this regard. Before IeatSRT8 and others came around I ran a K&N setup and went back to stock before finding out running the stock airbox cover "fixed" it. My intake temperatures would creep up to 160F with the K&N setup ran as they intended.

[Retro]

Well, in a sense he is right!!!
His CAI requires no tune. The fucking thing is the same size as the stock intake, it just has a cooler looking filter on it. So technically, it doesn't need a tune.

None of our needs it, it will run without it. It will just run a lot mother fucker better better with it. Not to mention the fact that you have not come anywhere near the vehicles potential without it.....

[EDub]

Psh did you see the dyno numbers? 18hp and 27lbs of torque

[Fast Motorsports]

Like Alvin hit on the neckdown is one of the worst parts of the stock intake system. TO me this looks no different than the K&N system where the filter mounts directly to the maf. So therefor removing that neck down with then would require tuning for the proper maf calibration

[muscleshop]

Originally Posted by Retro

Well, in a sense he is right!!!
His CAI requires no tune. The fucking thing is the same size as the stock intake, it just has a cooler looking filter on it. So technically, it doesn't need a tune.

None of our needs it, it will run without it. It will just run a lot mother fucker better better with it. Not to mention the fact that you have not come anywhere near the vehicles potential without it.....

That is what I was trying to explain to him... HIS (AIRAID) intake doesn't need a tune, because it doesn't add enough benefit over the stock induction system.

[chevy724]

[EightySSix]

Man I hate that site!

[swat ss]

Originally Posted by 262

Damn I'm doing it wrong!

I need to start stocking these! Not only does it do my tune work for me but saves the customer money

Man this is going to turn the tuning world upside down. I wonder if we add a tornado to it if we will see even better gains?????

lol @ tornado

[jeffhd2]

I'll weigh in for what it's worth. I bought the ieatsrt8 CAI WITH the IAT relocate kit. Because the IAT is also in the MAF assembly stock, you can have a heat sink issue, even with the plastic MAF housing.

I didn't have many miles on mine when I changed mine out so I cannot honestly tell you how much the performance changed. What sold me was getting rid of the air baffles on the stock plenum. Stop and think, why did they put those ugly ass baffles hanging off the side?? It disrupts airflow, plain and simple. That disrupted airflow quiets the intake noise. Ford has done it for years, my E-150 conversion van had a baffle the size of a nerf footbal stuck inside the tube!!!!
Needless to say, I disassembled the plenum onm the Ford and removed the "silencer". That alone made a huge difference in mileage and performance,let alone sound.

My TBSS PCM had to re-learn after I put on the ieatsrt8. Again, stop and think, my would I have black soot around the tailpipe perimeter after doing that and the res delete? Simple, more airflow into and out of the motor as registered by the MAF. therefore the PCM tries to overcompensate for a leaner condition until it re-learns the proper A/F mixture ratio.

I put a BBK CAI on my S/C HD F-150. The plenum is a polished cast unit which looks trick as hell and was the same price as any other CAI, including K&N. ( I think theirs was 20 bucks higher) Here's the problem. That piece of cast alloy is a giant heat sink which sucks heat from the motor compartment and passes it directly to the IAT, which is mounted into the side of it. But you want a performance difference if you're not taking off from a stoplight in 90 degree weather. That thing made it scream. Over 85 degrees ambient air and it is a total slug until enough intake air passes over the CAI to cool it down a bit. My son's 1996 T-bird 4.6 would stomp it if I had been sitting at a light or slow cruising.

lessons learned. Any increased airflow is good, it is just more efficient. But you absolutely have to pay attention to where and HOW the IAT is located. It has to stay cool.

[SLOWHITE]

Originally Posted by Alvin

A intake itself doesn't require much if any tuning because of the extra airflow. Its because it changes the flow profile across the MAF sensor making it read different. That is why most need a tune. Its possible airraid tailored thier intake to put the maf calibration back where it started from but I wouldn't believe it unless I saw it. The factory neck down piece really screws with the factory MAF calibration. Anytime you open that up your going to need to recalibrate.

I totally agree. The only thought invloved in making my intake was to keep the maf/iat housing in the exact same position. I went to get it tuned after it was installed and was told no retune is neccasary on my 4 inch intake. That being said, I can swap in the stock elbow and still use the 4 inch neckdown, and it looks totally stock under the hood.

[DoWork]

the mods stepped in now. Way to piss them off by bashing a vendor Shawn

[Fast Motorsports]

Please tell me someone copied the posts before they were deleted. Just repaste it all back up again

[Alvin]

That intake I made a few weeks ago would even start on the tune it had in it!