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Originally Posted by martyjw597
so, if it turns out being the front axle spline failure, should i just take it all out and convert to 2wd? Is there parts available to fix it or replace? And what needs to be done to the trans to go 2wd?
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You will need a new trans output shaft and tail housing. You will also need front axle stubs from a RWD and a RWD driveshaft. Greg can get you the parts.
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Apr-07-12, 08:57 PM
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Just wondering which way is cheaper and easier...guess i gotta see whats wrong first.
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Apr-07-12, 09:12 PM
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Just wondering which way is cheaper and easier...guess i gotta see whats wrong first.
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If it's the trans it would be cheapest and easiest to to rebuild it and stay AWD. If the diff is broken it may be easier to just go RWD.
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Apr-07-12, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by martyjw597
Just wondering which way is cheaper and easier...guess i gotta see whats wrong first.
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When I had the spline failure my truck wouldn't move more than a few feet and sounded like something was loose in the trans linkage when I tried going thru all the gears. I felt/heard a boom then I was dead in the water. When my trans went I still had reverse and 1st and 2nd. Either way a 2wd conversion would be best and I wish I did that when I had the chance and more money than I do now. Replacing my blown trans with another stock unit was $2300, spline failure was $3600. If its the splines you'd be better off making it 2wd and never having to worry about it again, trust me it's no fun waiting for it to happen again and from the mileage intervals when it seems to happen I'm about due for it again. Good luck, I hope it works out for you.
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Apr-07-12, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by lt1z
It works in three ways.
1. The shorter diameter maximizes the trucks gearing with 4.10s to go through the traps near redline in 3rd
2. A stickier tire will 60 ft better
3. The shorter DR setup on 17s saves a good amount or rotating weight over stock 20s which leads to quicker acceleration.
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Originally Posted by mitch kramer baby!
I know your very intelligent person so I dont know if you were joking or not.
but, best reson is weight, tire options, and yes depending on gear ratio and shit, people change them up so lets say they dont have to do the last shift kind of thing
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No, not joking at all! I've seen a lot of guys up here on the hill running with the stock 20's in the past, Spddman to mention one name, and he ran 11.5's! Aside from Ross, who is NOW 2WD, I don't think I've seen an AWD on smaller wheels and DR's on all 4 corners. I didn't think traction would really be an issue on an AWD truck until you get into HUGE HP numbers, at which point I see guys convert to 2wd. Pardon the ignorance on my part  Thanks for explaining!! Would DR's be good on crappy old steelies?
Sorry, back to OP/Topic!! 
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Apr-07-12, 10:49 PM
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Radials would be great on steelies. It will mostly help you with gearing on a low horsepower setup. When you start making a lot of power then it is for traction. When you are looking for ET and you already have traction... thats when you call Bogart, CCW, or True Forged and get some lightweight wheels.
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Apr-07-12, 11:05 PM
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No, not joking at all! I've seen a lot of guys up here on the hill running with the stock 20's in the past, Spddman to mention one name, and he ran 11.5's! Aside from Ross, who is NOW 2WD, I don't think I've seen an AWD on smaller wheels and DR's on all 4 corners. I didn't think traction would really be an issue on an AWD truck until you get into HUGE HP numbers, at which point I see guys convert to 2wd. Pardon the ignorance on my part Thanks for explaining!! Would DR's be good on crappy old steelies?
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The 245/45/17 size is perfect for the steel spares on an AWD. There are a lot of EVOs in the 9's running that tire setup. You haven't seen many AWD DR setups because most people didn't want to buy 4 wheels and tires.
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Apr-08-12, 06:15 AM
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Congrats man
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Originally Posted by unfnny1
When I had the spline failure my truck wouldn't move more than a few feet and sounded like something was loose in the trans linkage when I tried going thru all the gears. I felt/heard a boom then I was dead in the water. When my trans went I still had reverse and 1st and 2nd. Either way a 2wd conversion would be best and I wish I did that when I had the chance and more money than I do now. Replacing my blown trans with another stock unit was $2300, spline failure was $3600. If its the splines you'd be better off making it 2wd and never having to worry about it again, trust me it's no fun waiting for it to happen again and from the mileage intervals when it seems to happen I'm about due for it again. Good luck, I hope it works out for you.
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Why was the spline failure $3600? Was that for parts and labor? How much are just the parts?
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Apr-08-12, 06:34 AM
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Congrats man
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Thanks...kinda bitter sweet with breaking something on the way home
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Apr-08-12, 06:44 AM
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You will need a new trans output shaft and tail housing. You will also need front axle stubs from a RWD and a RWD driveshaft. Greg can get you the parts.
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WTH are front Axle Stubs?
And congrats on the time Marty.
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Apr-08-12, 06:57 AM
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WTH are front Axle Stubs?
And congrats on the time Marty.
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Thanks
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Apr-08-12, 07:06 AM
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I think someone is due for a sig update. 
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Apr-08-12, 08:02 AM
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Why was the spline failure $3600? Was that for parts and labor? How much are just the parts?
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As always labor was the killer. I was accelerating onto the highway when mine went and it not only took the splines off the shaft it killed the bearings and the entire housing. Plus they went past the point of damage and re-did everything to the differential and checked the diff for damage as well. The way they rebuilt it was above and beyond the normal (hence the price) and I shouldn't have to worry about it again but I still do.
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Apr-08-12, 08:11 AM
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Thats sounds like what happened to me. Was accelerating on 294 and no more movement. If that is the problem...2wd here i come
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Apr-08-12, 08:23 AM
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Marty good to meet you yesterday. Bittersweet indeed. Let me know if you need a hand wrenching if you are gonna tackle the fix yourself. God knows im pushing my luck as well.
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Congrats on times nice runs. Sorry about the failure on the way home good luck with repairs
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Apr-08-12, 09:12 AM
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Marty good to meet you yesterday. Bittersweet indeed. Let me know if you need a hand wrenching if you are gonna tackle the fix yourself. God knows im pushing my luck as well.
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Good to meet you to. Your truck runs good too.
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Congrats on times nice runs. Sorry about the failure on the way home good luck with repairs
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Thanks!
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Apr-08-12, 09:32 AM
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Good numbers, congratts
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WTH are front Axle Stubs?
And congrats on the time Marty.
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Goes in the hub. I guess it holds it together  never had mine off
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Apr-08-12, 09:47 AM
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Good times Marty!!!
Just a thought, stay AWD and 11's are yours later this year....
Convert to 2wd, no 11 second AWD slip for you...
Either way, you still have a damn fast truck!!!!
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